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แล้ว ONO PASS เสียงเป็นอย่างไรบ้างครับ ผมว่าความถี่ต่ำดีกว่า PEARL  แน่ๆ ครับ :kicking

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The differences between the 103 and 103R, are the OFC copper windings, and a lighter coil structure. The output is slightly lower than the regular 103. The internal impedance of the 103R is lower than the regular 103(40 ohms). All the other specifications are the same.



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ของพี่เค้าใช้ DL-103 Pro ครับ เสียงน่าฟังมากๆเลย ต้องรอเบิร์นอีกหน่อยทั้งสายและหัว น่าจะเสียงอิ่มกว่านี้แน่ๆ  :yahoo  :bye1


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แล้วเสียงดีขึ้นมั๊ยครับ โดยเฉพาะหัวเข็ม DL103R มัน UP ไปกว่า DL103 ธรรมดาไปมากแค่ไหน K)


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ใช้ครับ คุณBay  VTA  สายCARDAS ก็เหมือนกัน ติดตั้งโดยโดยคุณDekwat


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P3 ใส่ชุดยก  VTA  แบบนี้รึเปล่าครับ K)


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ใช้P3 ติดVTA เพิ่ม ใส่กับP25ได้สบายเลยครับ


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คุณ ecko1 ใช้ turntable กับ arm ของอะไรหรือครับ  ไม่รู้ว่าใส่กับ P25 ได้หรือเปล่า


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INTRODUCTION

This is a separate, dedicated file for Denon Cartridges, due to the large amount of information, both new and from the past, about these pickups. The information in this file has NOT yet been organized. I hope to do that sometime before the end of May 2005.

My eventual goal is to allow readers to make direct posts to this file without my assistance. I don't have the technical skills to set this up, so I will need some sort of computer expert to (voluntarily) help me. (I would also like that same capability for all the files one day, making this website a real "blog".)

DENON 103 SERIES

These cartridges may be the best value in the entire audio world today. They are not only the best and cheapest of this class, but even competitive with some of the Class B models, and they cost only around $200 or even less. To beat them out you must spend around $800 for the Shelter 501 II. (One reader just wrote me that he actually prefers the Denon to the Shelter!)

If you are looking for an excellent, brand new, low-output moving coil and don’t want to spend serious money, your search has ended. These cartridges make almost all of the others look grossly overpriced. None of us have heard the new "R" series, which costs more money, and is supposed to have a more advanced coil system.

FURTHER DENON INFORMATION
A U.S. reader recently sent me this information about Denon prices and availability within the U.S.:

"Thought you might be interested to know that you can buy these carts directly from Denon in the U.S. The number I used is 310-974-1010 (then press Option #2-"Service"); that's their office in Torrance, California:

103 $ 149.32
103DL $ 347.44
DLS1 $ 774.40
DL-110 $ 139.00
DL-160 $ 179.00
302 $ 228.80
304 $ 348.48
The 305 is discontinued. (7/03)

Since the Denon line isn't always available within the U.S. itself, there are links provided to Japanese and German websites which will sell the Denons directly to you, and at bargain prices. The Shelter line can also be purchased at the Japanese website.

Pictures and a very short (in German) "description" of the various Denon pickups can be found at this URL: http://www.vinyl-lebt.de/SME/DL103/Thumbnails.html


The "R" Series

A couple of readers have informed me that the "R" series is superb in sound quality. The first one even feels it should be a "Class B" component. He wrote that it was "a fairly big step above the standard 103", and further stated that "the difference in sound is clearer high frequency reproduction".

The other reader also loved it, but wrote that he was very unimpressed with the body. He felt that it is easily marked and it's "impossible to mount the 103 R tight to the headshell". However, the first reader informed me that all the Denon 103 models have the same body, with the only difference being the color of the line in the front.

This same reader also shared some technical information for the two pickups.

Denon 103----40 Ohms---.30mV Output
Denon 103R--14 Ohms---.25mV Output

Unfortunately- I just heard that the 103R is about to be discontinued. Fortunately, there may already be a more expensive replacement model and with a better body. This story is now becoming "complicated", so read the information below very carefully.


Other Denon Models 103s

This is what I have heard to date about two different models from my usually reliable source. My source's exact description is...

"Denon 103 FLS: This is the ultimate version of the 103 with a hyper-elliptical stylus and (white) ceramic body . Unfortunately it is very rare and hard to get. Recently Radio Schopper had some in offer, but they are all sold out by now."

There is also another model, which may be easier to find. His description is as follows...

"Denon 103 PRO: This a a new version of the 103, offered by Eifl/Japan. Actually it looks like a 'R'. I have no idea what the difference is. Price is quite high, $ 350 USD."
My source further wrote...

"Mr. Koji Wakabayashi says the following about the 103 PRO: 'DL-103 PRO has much better high frequency response up to 80 kHz. The user of DL-103 PRO is mainly professional people, like broadcasting station, recording studio etc.'"
Denon 304/301: These are other cartridges in the Denon line. None of us has experience with them, but a reader wrote to us:

"...The Denon 304 (...) is a very low voltage mc .18mV with (a) frequency response of 20Hz - 75kHz. I understand it has been discontinued, but I saw a 301 on a Denon web page from Japan with the same specs."

Further- A reader sent me this information concerning Denon availability in England:

"I ... decided to give the UK distributor (Hayden Laboratories) a call to see what cartridges are available here in the UK. They have told me that 4 cartridges are available from Denon; DL 103, DL 110, DL 160 and DL 304. They said that the only cartridge that they do not have at the moment is the DL 304, but they are expecting a delivery of this cartridge at the end of October, so it is still in production. All the specs for these cartridges are on the Denon.co.uk website or at originlive.com." (9/03)



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AudiogoN Review: Denon DL 103R Cartridge
 
The primary purpose of this review is to show the differences between the standard DL103 and the DL103R. Many people have heard of this series of cartridge, but have not experienced them, or know what the difference between models may be.

I have spent the last 6 months using a standard Denon DL103 cartridge. I have just recently purchased and installed a Denon DL103R model.

The DL103R is a low-output moving coil type cartridge. It has .27mv output and an internal impedance of 14 ohms. The weight is 8.5 grams. It tracks at 2.4 - 2.8 grams. It has a spherical stylus with a surface hardness orientation toward the contact surfaces. The cantilever is double walled aluminum. The coils are wound of 99.9999%(6N) oxygen free copper. Compliance is 5 cu.

The differences between the 103 and 103R, are the OFC copper windings, and a lighter coil structure. The output is slightly lower than the regular 103. The internal impedance of the 103R is lower than the regular 103(40 ohms). All the other specifications are the same.

The sound of the regular DL103 is outstanding, and a super bargain at it's price point. Many have heard of it referred to as a super-cart, or giant-killer. And it is. It has the wonderful characteristic of allowing the music to come across as a composition, and not as a group of dis-jointed parts. This is not as common as we would like in cartridges today. Many carts will give great separation of instruments and holographic imaging, and detail, but they never seem to merge as a musical whole. The Denon carts excell in this area of making the parts merge into a full musical presentation, and still retains the detail and delineation of the instruments and voices. This is one of the major reasons why the DL103 is such a desireable cartridge.

The DL103R retains this family characteristic and makes quantum leaps in improvement for a modest cost increase. The six-nines copper windings with a lighter coil weight really let the high end show more detail, air, and finesse. Bells, cymbals, and harmonic overtones are much better, with crystal-like clarity. Sibilance is non existant. Microdynamics are awesome. When Rickie Lee Jones does her little comments and whispers between lines on "Woody and Dutch" on the Pirates album, these normally obscured, or hard to hear, lines are superbly clear. The differences in vocal inflection and emotion are conveyed with all of the artist's intentions. But the piano will totally knock you over. I play piano, and am very sensitive to the full, wide palette of sound and harmonics that piano gives. The ability of this cart to portray lifelike piano sound is astounding. The weight and authority of the bass notes, the delicate nuances of the high notes, and the power of two-hand chord playing, including the famous "Steinway Crash" sound in the midrange, is beautifully done. It is no slacker in the bass department either. Drums, bass, and large stringed and horn instruments are tonally accurate, and their high frequency components such as drum skin attack, and string pluck, are perfectly blended with the bass sounds, so the realism of the instrument is kept intact. Attacks and decays are terrific with the DL103R. The lighter coils really show their stuff in minute detail and airy decays. Midrange is very Koetsu-like in its magic. Realism is stunning. Overall, top-to-bottom, this cartridge performs like you would expect from a $1k - $2k cart. And that is not an exaggeration. It is that good.The tracking is outstanding, and much better than the standard 103. High frequency dynamics that would cause the 103 to mistrack, are easily handled by the DL103R. Clicks and pops are less distracting, and there is a lower noise floor.

For the down-sides, there is a hint of edge on some vocals, especially ones that are already edgy voices. It is not the last word in "smoothness" but it is certainly not bad here. It could be a little better though. There is a very slight hint of some upper midrange coloration, like the standard 103 has, but much less. The lighter coils create a slight rise in amplitude over 15kHz, that the standard DL103 does not have. I did not find this to be problematic, although those with a "hot" tweeter may not like this. The low compliance of this cartridge is not compatible with all tonearms. It likes a heavier arm, and really does perform better with gimbal arms. Heavier unipivots, or ones with damping and stabilizing may work, though.

I put the DL103R through the paces on my Teres 245 with most of my favorite "test" records. It never failed to put a smile on my face, as it bettered the standard DL103 in all respects on every record I played. Fleetwood Mac "Landslide" has Stevie Nicks right there in the living room. All the Rickie Lee Jones material is so much more "alive" than before. And the percussive small scale nature of the Rickie Lee Jones stuff shows off the speed and detail very well. Her hard to understand lyrics are much easier to understand and the timbre of the voice is very very natural, and emotion is well conveyed. Soundstage is wide and deep. Imaging is excellent. Top-to-bottom frequency balance is very good. On Manhattan Transfer's "Vocalese", the 4-part harmonies take on a perfect balance of separateness and blend. The large scale big-band accompaniment is dynamic, powerful, and doesn't fall apart. On Walter Egan's "Not Shy" album, the "boogie" aspect is spot-on. This cart can rock, and can get you up out of your chair, dancing around the room. The jazz sax on John Klemmer's Direct Disk album is so perfect, that it is absolutely live sounding.

After experimenting with loading, I found the 40 ohm loading on the Cotter to be most satisfactory. It gave the most air and detail, without sacrificing low frequency accuracy.

VTA was already set for my other DL103 cart, and I needed to make no adjustments there. It likes a very slight positive VTA angle.

To sum up, this cart is a total killer value. It make me wonder why more people don't go for this cart. It would definitely make some very expensive cartridge owners very uncomfortable, because it would be so close to the best, at such a ridiculously low price. It is clearly in the league of a Koetsu Black, and even very close to a Shelter 501. In my opinion, it is better than virtually all of the more well known sub-$2k offerings from Benz, Clearaudio, VDH, Grado, Dynavector, etc. I think it is overlooked because it is not readily available in the US, and is only $300. Alot of folks think if it is not expensive, it can't be that good. That is not correct, it is that good. This is a do-it-all cartridge that perform way,way beyond its price. It is not perfect, but nothing is, and you could by 10 of these for the price of one of the cartridges it can compete with. You can do better, primarily in the "smoothness" area, but you will pay plenty to do it. And you need to have an arm that is compatible.

In my estimation, this cartridge is the best value for dollar in all of audio today. The closest competitor for value is the Shelter 501 at $800, which itself is a superb value at it's price point. But being familiar with both, I am re-thinking the need to move up to a Shelter, or anything else, because this DL103R is extremely musical and provides all the top audiophile attributes at a very affordable price. And if you snag the stylus and break it, you're not out three thousand bucks.

If you haven't tried a DL103, try one for $200. If you can squeeze out a few more bucks, the DL103R is definitely worth the extra money. And please, for God's sake, if you are thinking of getting a new cartridge under $1k, then you have to at least try this out. If, for some reason you didn't like it, there are alot of people who would be waiting to snap it up. When I got my new DL103R, I put my standard used DL103 on the A'gon classifieds, and sold it in 10 minutes - no joke. This cart is worth a try for anyone, not just entry-level, as the price would seem to indicate.

 
 



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